Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/07/2024 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 5 HOLD LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS IN ANCHORAGE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 317 FARM USE LAND/STRUCTURES: TAX EXEMPTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SJR 13 AMEND ALASKA NATIVE CLAIMS SETTLEMENT ACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HB   5-HOLD LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS IN ANCHORAGE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  5,   "An  Act  relating  to  convening  the                                                               
legislature  in   Anchorage;  relating   to  the   regulation  of                                                               
lobbying; relating  to annual student guests  of the legislature;                                                               
relating to  locations of sessions  of the  legislature; relating                                                               
to  the Legislative  Ethics Act;  relating to  the relocation  of                                                               
functions  of state  government; and  providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:03:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:03:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE  RAUSCHER, Alaska State  Legislature, prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented  HB  5.   He  shared  the  sponsor  statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House bill 5  would bring the legislative  session to a                                                                    
     place   where   most    Alaskans   could   participate.                                                                    
     Currently, with  the legislative session being  held in                                                                    
     Juneau, it  is incredibly  expensive for  a constituent                                                                    
     to participate  in person. And while  there are options                                                                    
     to  view   meetings  online,  moving   the  legislative                                                                    
     session to Anchorage would provide  Alaskans with a way                                                                    
     to participate  in the  legislative process  in person,                                                                    
     like is done in most other states.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In  addition  to  making sessions  more  accessible  to                                                                    
     Alaskans, moving  the legislative session  to Anchorage                                                                    
     would  also  help  reduce the  huge  cost  involved  in                                                                    
     moving all 60 legislators and  staff to and from Juneau                                                                    
     each year. Furthermore, with the  session being held in                                                                    
     Anchorage,  a good  portion  of  those legislators  and                                                                    
     staff would  also not requiring  housing. House  Bill 5                                                                    
     will help  bring down the  cost of  legislative session                                                                    
     while giving  the public an opportunity  to participate                                                                    
     in  the legislative  process  without  having to  spend                                                                    
     large amounts of money.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER listed the financial benefits of holding                                                                
the legislative session in Anchorage, including per diem and                                                                    
travel for legislators, constituents, and lobbyists.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:08:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN MCKEE,  Staff, Representative George Rauscher,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Representative Rauscher, prime sponsor                                                               
of  HB  5, presented  the  sectional  analysis [included  in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1:  AS  15.13.072(d)  This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location  where a  legislator  or legislative  employee                                                                    
     may  not solicit  or accept  a  contribution unless  it                                                                    
     occurs  in  a  place  other than  the  Municipality  of                                                                    
     Anchorage, replacing  the Capital city,  during regular                                                                    
     or special legislative session.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2:  AS  15.13.072(g)  This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location  from  the  Capital city  to  Municipality  of                                                                    
     Anchorage where  a candidate  or individual  who incurs                                                                    
     election  related expenses  for election  or reelection                                                                    
     to the  office of  the governor or  lieutenant governor                                                                    
     may not solicit or accept contributions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: AS 24.05.090  This would change the location                                                                    
     of   the  legislative   session  to   convene  in   the                                                                    
     Municipality of Anchorage, not the Capital.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:  AS  24.05.100(b)  This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location  of   a  special   session  if   the  governor                                                                    
     designates a  location other  than the  Municipality of                                                                    
     Anchorage.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: AS 24.10.030  This would change the location                                                                    
     for  the  chief clerk  and  senate  secretary to  serve                                                                    
     their duties at  the location of the  session until the                                                                    
     completion of their work relating to that session.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6:  AS  24.10.130(a)  This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location   of   the    legislative   session   to   the                                                                    
     Municipality  of Anchorage  when handling  the member's                                                                    
     reimbursement of  travel expenses  from their  place of                                                                    
     residence.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7:   AS  24.45.041(b)  This  would   change  a                                                                    
     lobbyist's   requirement  to   provide  the   temporary                                                                    
     residential  and business  address in  the location  of                                                                    
     the session instead of the state capital.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8:  AS  24.45.041(e)  This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location  where the  lobbyist directory  shall be  made                                                                    
     available   to   the   legislative  chambers   in   the                                                                    
     Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9: AS 24.50.010  This would change the location                                                                    
     where   annual  students   guests  may   stay  to   the                                                                    
     Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10:   AS  24.50.040  This  would   change  the                                                                    
     location of  the essay contest  to the location  of the                                                                    
     session and  adds that  each legislative  guest "hosted                                                                    
     under  AS  24.50.010"  to  further  define  the  annual                                                                    
     student guests.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11:  AS  24.60.030(a) This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location  where a  legislator  or legislative  employee                                                                    
     may  not   solicit  or  benefit  other   than  official                                                                    
     compensation   or   use   public   funds,   facilities,                                                                    
     equipment,  services,  or  other  government  asset  or                                                                    
     resource  for nonlegislative  purposes  in the  primary                                                                    
     location of the session.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  12:  AS  24.60.031(a) This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location,  from the  capital  city  to Municipality  of                                                                    
     Anchorage, where an employee may  or may not solicit or                                                                    
     accept a  contribution or promise  or pledge to  make a                                                                    
     contribution.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  13:  AS  24.60.031(b) This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location,  from the  capital  city  to Municipality  of                                                                    
     Anchorage, where  a legislator  may or may  not solicit                                                                    
     or accept a contribution or promise.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  14:  AS  24.60.080(c) This  would  change  the                                                                    
     location,  from the  capital  city  to Municipality  of                                                                    
     Anchorage, in relation to gifts.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15:  AS  44.99.007   This  would  specify  the                                                                    
     location where the  governor shall declare proclamation                                                                    
     an emergency  temporary location  or locations  for the                                                                    
     seat of government  or for the session.  Section 16: AS                                                                    
     44.06.050,  44.06.055,  and   44.06.060  are  repealed.                                                                    
     Section 17: sets an effective date.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:13:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  reiterated the bill would  only relocate                                                               
the legislative session,  not move the capital city.   He said he                                                               
did not understand  the associated fiscal note  and presumed that                                                               
staff could be re-hired in the Anchorage area.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK sought questions from committee members.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:14:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked whether any other state held the                                                                 
legislative session in a city other than its capital.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER offered to follow up with the requested                                                                 
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:15:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY   opined  that   the  capital   is  already                                                               
effectively in Anchorage, as the  governor and most commissioners                                                               
spend most of their time in Anchorage.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:16:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE asked whether the  bill sponsor knew of any                                                               
other  state  capital that  is  inaccessible  to constituents  by                                                               
road.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER shared  his  belief that  no other  U.S.                                                               
capitals are inaccessible by road.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK shared that he  met a representative who lived in                                                               
the Los Angeles area who had  to fly to Sacramento because of the                                                               
long drive.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER corrected  his  last  statement, as  the                                                               
capital of  Hawaii is on  an island.   He recalled  that citizens                                                               
had voted to  move the capital more than once;  however, it never                                                               
happened  because of  the expense.    He asserted  that the  bill                                                               
would  save money  and make  the legislators  more accessible  to                                                               
constituents during session.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:17:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  said this was a  highly requested topic                                                               
from  his constituents.   He  suggested holding  one half  of the                                                               
two-year legislative session  in Anchorage and the  other half in                                                               
Juneau.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER said  he had  not considered  that.   He                                                               
pointed out  that if half of  session were to be  held in Juneau,                                                               
the savings proposed  in HB 5 would not materialize  for the year                                                               
spent  in Juneau.   He  said  the major  change would  be the  40                                                               
support staff  who work  for the legislature  that would  need to                                                               
either relocate  or the  position would be  filled by  someone in                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:21:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT opined that  the playing field in Juneau                                                               
is level  because all but  three legislators are away  from their                                                               
families.    She said  the  city  of Juneau  has  done  a lot  to                                                               
accommodate the legislature, adding that  she would need to think                                                               
about this proposal further.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK acknowledged  the issue  of equity  and wondered                                                               
what he could do for the  villages he represents who are left out                                                               
of the equation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:24:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that HB 5 would be held over.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 5 Sectional Analysis.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
HB 5 Sponsor Statement.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
HB 5 Version A.PDF HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
HB 317 Sectional Analysis - Version A.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 317
HB 317 Sponsor Statement - Version A.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 317
HB 317 Version A.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 317
SJR 13 Fiscal Note.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Sponsor Statement.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 MLT Presentation to SCRA 2023-04-20.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Support Documents Received by 1.30.2024.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Version A.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
HB317 Presentation 3.7.24.pdf HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 317